Frequently Asked Questions.
Q: I am intending to transfer to “Phool U” to complete my “Pick one” degree. Do you think I should take General Physics or Analytical Physics?
A: When planning to transfer to a 4 year college to complete your degree program, your choices should be based on information obtained from the 4 year college’s catalog and advice from the Program Advisor for your program at that college. The information in the WCC catalog, regarding engineering programs, is based on the requirements of many different universities and is in general quite sound. As for other programs such as Architecture, Pre Med, etc, the 4 year college catalog must be consulted. I highly recommend a “face to face” with the Program Advisor (not Admissions Counselor) since the Program advisor has a lot of latitude over the requirements necessary to complete your 4 year degree. In general, a higher level course will usually be accepted as a replacement for a lower course with the same content.
Q: May I obtain an override to take both Phy 111 and Phy 122 (or 211,222) in the same semester?
A: The override can be granted by the instructor teaching the higher level course (122,222). I however, will try do discourage students from the attempt for the following reasons:
1. The topics covered in the second semester (electricity, magnetism, and light) are all based on a foundation of force and energy. Many of the problems will tie the mechanical concepts to the E & M concepts. Your instructor will assume that you understand these mechanical concepts quite well. You could end up over whelmed or leave the experience with a superficial education at best.
2. If you plan to transfer to the U of M (or similar fussy universities) college of engineering, you had better understand the consequences of a poor grade or withdraw on your transcript. A withdraw is often treated as a FAIL by the admissions people. It’s hard ball there! Your reason for the W is not important to them. Don’t be in such a hurry that you close the door to the school of your choice before you get the chance to pass through it!
Q: May I enroll for the day lecture and the evening lab class?
A: A few of the Physics department course listing may show a separate lecture and laboratory listing. Students often interpret this as “any combination of lab and lecture will work”. The implication is NOT TRUE! Students MUST select the lab which corresponds to a given lecture. The lab and lecture are listed separately in the catalog for internal business purposes only. Lab and lecture are in reality, one course, with one instructor. There is no “lab day”. The instructors integrate the total class time between lecture and laboratory exercises through out the semester.
Q: The class I need is full; Can I get an over ride?
A: NO! Most of our class sizes are set at 24 students. This count is based on available seating in the room, available equipment in the laboratory, and on providing a safe environment for the student in the laboratory.
My name is___________, and I was registered for phys ____, and today when I went to pay my tuition, I was told that all my classes were purged. I also found out that your class is full. I have a very special case in that I have to register both at U of M and at WCC in order to attend WCC. U of M already has me as approved for your class. I was wondering if it is going to be possible to get an over ride?
A: NO! I believe WCC accepts VISA, etc. (see above answer)
I was dropped from your class because I did not attend one of the first two class sessions. Now I can’t get back in without an over ride. I really need this class because “*%^%$#@@$^**%$^%$^”. Can I get an over ride?
A: NO. I really needed you in class from the beginning. (see above answer)
I am the first person on the “Wait List”. Will I be the next student admitted when there is room?
A: Regarding the Wait List, students often have a false understanding of the purpose of the Wait List, and how it effects their enrollment into a class which is full. This confusion is propagated by the fact that various instructors implement a policy of selecting students in the order that they appear on the list. Since a “first on, first in” policy is observed by some instructors, students soon believe that the policy is college wide. It is NOT.
The Wait List is just that and only that, a list of students waiting to gain enrollment into a class which is full. This list is compiled by the registrar, due to the request of the general faculty several years ago. At that time, the facility desired a single clearing point for interested although not yet enrolled students. How students move from the Wait List into a class, if ever, has always been at the discretion and discernment of the individual instructor. There is no college wide policy. It is the instructor’s choice. The instructor is free to evaluate each case as it comes and act (or fail to act) on that information.
I personally, have at times implemented various policies, seeking so called uniformity, only to discover that “that which is seen as fair to one category of students, will be seen as unfair by others. Do you give the seat to a student that needs only this class to graduate? Do you give the seat to a student that comes to class each period in the hope he will gain enrollment? Do you give the seat to the first student on the list because he was ahead of the others on the list? Do you give the seat to a student that is in your opinion most likely to do well and continue on to the next course? Remember that in all cases above, the student has their own needs and their own opinion of what is fair. And, in all cases, their desire for entry into a class was not sufficient to motivate the student to enroll early. That is why he or she is waiting!
The Wait List is informational tool for the instructor and college only. Override access to a full class, or to a class after the registration period is at the total discretion of that instructor.